01-12-2025, 04:58 PM
Hello Antti,
I'm writing to ask about how to interpret / use NCAP_AFC to represent long duration energy storage technology options in TIMES models . I am aware that many have asked about this parameter, and have reviewed other posts without finding what I'm after. If the information is already out there please feel free to point me to it!
In the case of short duration electricity storage batteries, the following example and interpretation would, as I understand it, be typical:
In the case of long duration electricity storage, I would like to make sure I understand how the storage parameters work in the following cases.
A] Battery storage system as above but with a storage duration x > 24hrs
I assume the appropriate representation for this would be as above:
B] Hydrogen storage in e.g. salt caverns for durations of days / weeks / months
The approach above no longer applies. Instead one should consider something like the following:
Other posts have described systems storing H2 representing e.g. 1000 hrs storage. In that context, I understand that one would likely define the technology as DAYNITE, and the NCAP_AFC(...ACT..)=(1000/24)/EFF. However in this example I don't understand how the TIMES system interprets this in relation to the PJ_a / PJ units of the technology - i.e. with an electrical system, a 1GW storage with 1000hrs of storage means 1000 GWh of electricity can be released. Does the 1000hrs in the context of the hydrogen system defined in PJ_a/PJ translate as 1000/8760 = 0.114 PJ of stored energy? And how should one interpret the Installed Capacity results for this system?
(I note that the NCAP_AFC(...ACT, SEASON) calculation would differ from the DAYNITE definition of the storage caverns and be 1000/8760 = 0.114 - assuming EFF=1)
In essence, I am struggling to decide how to use NCAP_AFC in the context of long-duration "energy" (not electricity) storage systems. It is not clear to me how to use NCAP_AFC to parameterise a "generic" supply chain for storing H2 which links a cavern system to H2 turbines.
(I have similar thoughts about compressed air storage)
Happy to review any previous posts or model file examples that highlight how this works.
Thanks for the help!
I'm writing to ask about how to interpret / use NCAP_AFC to represent long duration energy storage technology options in TIMES models . I am aware that many have asked about this parameter, and have reviewed other posts without finding what I'm after. If the information is already out there please feel free to point me to it!
In the case of short duration electricity storage batteries, the following example and interpretation would, as I understand it, be typical:
- STG technology SET membership, Same ELC input / output to BESS system with xhrs storage (x<24), BESS declared at the DAYNITE tslvl, storage efficiency EFF, CAP2ACT 31.536 linking capacity in GW to output in PJ.
- NCAP_AFC( r, y, BESS, ACT, DAYNITE) = (x/24) / EFF -- defines the power to energy ratio, that is, it ensures that e.g. 1GW installed capacity can only output xGWh over a 24h period.
- NCAP_AFC( r, y, BESS, NRG, DAYNITE) =y -- y<1 - if defined - describes inflow and outflow availability factors - describing that y% of the nominal capacity is available to charge and sdischarge over the t.s. duration.
- NCAP_AFC( r, y, BESS, ELC, DAYNITE) = z -- z<1 - if defined - overwrites the 'NRG' declaration and redefines the outflow availability factor - describing that z% of the nominal capacity is available to discharge over the t.s. duration.
In the case of long duration electricity storage, I would like to make sure I understand how the storage parameters work in the following cases.
A] Battery storage system as above but with a storage duration x > 24hrs
I assume the appropriate representation for this would be as above:
- DAYNITE t.s. technology definition, STG technology SET membership, CAP2ACT 31.536, storage efficiency EFF
- NCAP_AFC( r, y, BESS, ACT, DAYNITE) = (x/24) / EFF -- higher than 1.
- with this approach the BESS technology can store energy within the DAYNITE t.s. and its immediate parent t.s. - but no higher.
B] Hydrogen storage in e.g. salt caverns for durations of days / weeks / months
The approach above no longer applies. Instead one should consider something like the following:
- Same input / output commodity HYG.
- STS technology SET membership would allow the technology to store energy across all t.s. levels (DAYNITE, WEEKLY, SEASON) - not just to immediate parent.
- CAP2ACT =1, capacity defined in PJ_a and output defined in PJ.
- Tslvl = ? unclear to me whether this sort of option should be defined on a DAYNITE or e.g. a SEASON level?
- NCAP_AFC( r, y, HYGSTG, ACT, DAYNITE) = ? unclear to me how to define this parameter and what it means in this context?
Other posts have described systems storing H2 representing e.g. 1000 hrs storage. In that context, I understand that one would likely define the technology as DAYNITE, and the NCAP_AFC(...ACT..)=(1000/24)/EFF. However in this example I don't understand how the TIMES system interprets this in relation to the PJ_a / PJ units of the technology - i.e. with an electrical system, a 1GW storage with 1000hrs of storage means 1000 GWh of electricity can be released. Does the 1000hrs in the context of the hydrogen system defined in PJ_a/PJ translate as 1000/8760 = 0.114 PJ of stored energy? And how should one interpret the Installed Capacity results for this system?
(I note that the NCAP_AFC(...ACT, SEASON) calculation would differ from the DAYNITE definition of the storage caverns and be 1000/8760 = 0.114 - assuming EFF=1)
In essence, I am struggling to decide how to use NCAP_AFC in the context of long-duration "energy" (not electricity) storage systems. It is not clear to me how to use NCAP_AFC to parameterise a "generic" supply chain for storing H2 which links a cavern system to H2 turbines.
(I have similar thoughts about compressed air storage)
Happy to review any previous posts or model file examples that highlight how this works.
Thanks for the help!
